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Posted: 24 May 2004 Topic: Fire-bellied toad?



Hi Everybody
Your toad is definitely from the orientalis complex, either the Russian golden form or the brown phase of the Korean/Chinese form. I say "complex" because I believe that orientalis is in need of revision, and there is probably at least two subspecies (or even species) there.
The Russian golden form is smaller, stockier, and seems to prefer cooler temperatures than the Korean. I also believe they are calmer and maybe a bit more terrestrial.
While on the subject of Bombina taxonomic trivia, not only has pachypus been split off from variegata, but scabra and kolombatovici look to be next. And of the Giant species (which are going to be moved to their own genus sooner or later), lichuanensis is probably invalid. Hope all this helps.
Chad


Chad M Fordham
Founder, The X Frogs Group
The Archaeobatrachian Specialist's Resource
chabbu
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Posted: 24 May 2004 Topic: Fire-bellied toad?



Hi
Me again. I just realised that you have pics of 2 different toads there so I took a closer look. While the top one still looks like orientalis to me, the other one could be variegata, a variegata/orientalis hybrid, or an unusually yellow-ventered orientalis.
Chad


Chad M Fordham
Founder, The X Frogs Group
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