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tim-f
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Posted: 22 Mar 2009

Hello all.

On the Mendips this afternoon, I saw quite a few Grassies despite a pretty cold wind. 

I've seen them very close to Adders before, but not quite this close!  The Adder moved over the Grassie and away, while the Grassie stayed motionless.  It was hard to tell if the Grassie was comfortable with the encounter or was wishing it was somewhere else (their expressions are hard to read  ).

In the same area I saw this one with a dodgy left eye.  Is this an injury or is it about to slough?

This one with white on its tail is presumably about to slough?

Hope other people had as good a day as I had today!

Tim.

 


tim hamlett
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Posted: 22 Mar 2009

great shots tim

cheers

tim


Suzi
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Posted: 22 Mar 2009

I have seen adders, grass snakes and slow worms all together under tins.

Seems you had a good day. I was out on an East Devon heath yesterday morning and saw 6 lizards but no snakes. A bit disappointing but they were possibly mosaic basking in which case hard to see.


Suz
Robert V
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Posted: 28 Mar 2009

The second photo down looks as if the grassie has sustained a nasty injury to the ey at some stage - I'd say its definitely blind in that one now.

Rob


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Paul Ford
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Posted: 30 Mar 2009

Tim,

I think we saw that grass snake with the dodgy eye today - if it is the same one it has got a lot worse and I think it might need treatment...

Mark - can you post up that photo?

Cheers

Paul

 

 


herpetologic2
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Posted: 30 Mar 2009
Does anyone know of local vets who deal with reptiles?

Vets have an agreement that they treat wildlife free of
charge. I have rescued several animals and have my local
vet treat them however I dont think they look at
reptiles.....

J
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visit ARG UK & Alresford Wildlife
arvensis
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Posted: 30 Mar 2009
Paul - I'll get Jay to post up a photo of said grass snake because I don't have a decent close-up of dodgy left eye.   I'm pretty sure its the one and same snake.


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mibes
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Posted: 31 Mar 2009
I think this is the same one last weekend.


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Ophiuchus
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Posted: 31 Mar 2009
Here is the poor grass snake, if it is indeed the same snake the injury
has got a lot worse. As you can see it has become quite swollen


Ophiuchus *~*the serpent bearer*~*
Paul Ford
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Posted: 01 Apr 2009

Well it certainly looks like the same snake and that eye is getting worse

So, should I try to catch it and take it somewhere or leave it alone????

Paul


herpvet
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Posted: 03 Apr 2009
Hi Paul

I would definitely try to catch that snake and get it treated - almost certainly some sort of infection there, and (just from the pictures - a vet who actually sees the snake would be in a much better position to determine best treatment) surgical debridement and antimicrobial cover look necessary. An abscess there could spread potentially fatally.

Other possibilities such as a tumour exist, of course : ).

Hope this helps,

Bruce.

Bruce Maclean, Bird & Exotic Animal Veterinary Services.
Paul Ford
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Posted: 03 Apr 2009

Thanks Bruce.

I did go up yesterday to look for the poor fella but Sod's Law dictated that there was no sign...

I haven't given up yet though

Paul


Ophiuchus
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Posted: 03 Apr 2009
Hope you manage to find her/him, heprvet, what does debridement mean?


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herpvet
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Posted: 05 Apr 2009
[QUOTE=Ophiuchus]Hope you manage to find her/him, heprvet, what does debridement mean?

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Hi,

It just means cleaning away all the necrotic tissue, pus etc (manky stuff, to use the technical term : )). If this is not done, there is much less chance of antimicrobial drugs clearing the infection, and even if they do the remaining pus can act as a focus for reinfection.

Cheers,

Bruce.

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Ophiuchus
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Posted: 05 Apr 2009
Thanks for explaining.
Ophiuchus *~*the serpent bearer*~*
tim-f
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Posted: 05 Apr 2009

No sign of the snake with the bad eye today.  Perhaps "nature has taken its course".  Quite a few others around though, with several pairs mating.


kevinb
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Posted: 09 Apr 2009

Thanks to Paul for a great day out and looking through pictures from the day I noticed this Grass snake, hope the marks are not related to the swollen eye of the previous snake


herpetologic2
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Posted: 16 Apr 2009
That looks like an infection. I found some snakes with
similar symptoms on a capture exercise on a motorway
project two years ago.

Get the animals to a vet asap to check

J
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Robert V
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Posted: 05 Apr 2010

And John, maybe have a look at these two cases, certainly similar. What's more Jon is saying he found snakes with symptoms on one of his searches/recording projects

R


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