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David Bird Forum Specialist Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 515  View other posts by David Bird |
Posted: 26 Sep 2003 As there is a new system for putting on photos I thought I would have a go with a couple of shots of a sub adult Green Lizard seen on the 13 Sep at the now nationally famous Bournemouth cliffs colony. This one was under some gorse also saw a hatchling in marram grass clump. Have had to crop photos to get to the lower file size
British Herpetological Society Librarian and member of B.H.S Conservation Committee. Self employed Herpetological Consultant and Field Worker. |
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-LAF Senior Member Joined: 03 Apr 2003 No. of posts: 317 View other posts by -LAF |
Posted: 29 Sep 2003 Sorry if I'm being really slow... They have bred nr Bournmouth? Red sky at night, sheppards delight, Green lizard in the morning, global warming. Cheers, Lee. Lee Fairclough |
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David Bird Forum Specialist Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 515 View other posts by David Bird |
Posted: 30 Sep 2003 Lee, where have you been the last month. Made several national papers as well as the local one which you would not have seen. I am afraid they have bred, the area also has another colony of Wall Lizards and close by are Sand Lizards at the moment but for how long with all this competition, who knows. British Herpetological Society Librarian and member of B.H.S Conservation Committee. Self employed Herpetological Consultant and Field Worker. |
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Gemma Fairchild Krag Committee Joined: 14 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 193 View other posts by Gemma Fairchild |
Posted: 30 Sep 2003 Lee, the story from the Independent http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=386&PN=1 ----RAUK e-Forum---- 
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-LAF Senior Member Joined: 03 Apr 2003 No. of posts: 317 View other posts by -LAF |
Posted: 30 Sep 2003 Ah, remember that now, had no idea they'd bred though. Thanks guys! Lee. Lee Fairclough |
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Tony Phelps Forum Specialist Joined: 09 Mar 2003 No. of posts: 575 View other posts by Tony Phelps |
Posted: 03 Oct 2003 Had a cracking time in Italy with Lacerta bilineata, all sizes, very common, also huge males of podarcis sicula. Also last years hatchling Tetudo plus fantabulous male Vipera aspis 70cm+ also immatures and females will start V.aspis project next year in Tofa mountains. Also - E.longissima - E.quatrolineata, some big Colubers and yes we did find Coronella girondica after many hours of searching - may/june is best time. I did quite well with taking oics on my new digital the aspis look nice, also green lizard, Podarcis and that little toroise - they are all still on the card whatever you call it will find out how to show them. Tony PS South Africa on the 10th |
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Peter Vaughan Senior Member Joined: 21 Mar 2005 No. of posts: 170 View other posts by Peter Vaughan |
Posted: 11 Jun 2006 Hampshire Amphibians and Reptiles Group had a trip to see the Wall and Green Lizards at Bournemouth Cliff on the morning of Sunday 11 June 2006. Weather was intermitant hazy and bright sun, it was hot but there was a breeze. It was like being in another country for a couple of hours, with dozens of sightings of Wall Lizards on walls and at the base of vegetation. The hightlight was seeing Green Lizards. My memory of having seen them in Jersey, back in the mid-1980s, is of stocky, greenish grey animals about seven inches long. But I learnt today that the ones I had seen must have been juveniles - two of those we saw at Bournemouth, at the foot of the cliffs, were huge - the best part of a foot long and a brilliant green in colour (i.e. more so than our Sand Lizards). Our experts identified them as male and female, with the male having a turquoise chin. And they moved fast. Some in our party also had a fleeting glimpse of two juveniles at the top of the cliffs. The Wall Lizards don't look that different to our native species but the Green Lizards looked truly exotic - and alien, a bit like seeing a large green parrot turn up amongst the sparrows at your birdtable. From what I know of the history of attempted introductions of Green lizard into the UK, the Bournemouth ones are unlikely to spread much beyond the hot cliffs of Dorset, which seems for the best. But they are spectacular animals and it was good to have one place in mainland UK to see them. We also had a sighting of a Common Lizard. Peter Peter Vaughan |
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mhows Member Joined: 27 Feb 2006 No. of posts: 19 View other posts by mhows |
Posted: 13 Jun 2006 Here are a couple of photos from the site earlier in the year, both wall and green lizards were easily found. http://www.hows.org.uk/inter/birds/uk2006/gl3.jpg http://www.hows.org.uk/inter/birds/uk2006/liz.jpg http://www.hows.org.uk/inter/birds/uk2006/wallliz1.jpg
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Vicar Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 No. of posts: 1181 View other posts by Vicar |
Posted: 02 Jul 2006 Made it down to Boscombe today. The Green lizards are certainly present, but not the easiest things to find, nor photograph. The steep terrain is quite unforgiving. I did manage to observe this one for a while, stunningly beautiful animals, and BIG compared to our indigenous lizards. Surprisingly acrobatic too leaping from the undergrowth, catching bees.
Steve Langham - Chairman 
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Peter Vaughan Senior Member Joined: 21 Mar 2005 No. of posts: 170 View other posts by Peter Vaughan |
Posted: 02 Jul 2006 Glad you found one prepared to pose Steve! I notice that it has a green chin. One of the ones I saw at Bournemouth a couple of weeks ago had a turquoise chin - I'd assumed that was a male charactersitic rather than an adult/juvenile difference? Peter Peter Vaughan |
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Iowarth Admin Group Joined: 12 Apr 2004 No. of posts: 222 View other posts by Iowarth |
Posted: 08 Jul 2006 Hi Peter Didn't want to steal Steve's thunder but thought I would answer your query in the absence of a reply. As a general rule a bright blue or turquoise chin (often spreading to the cheeks) is indicative of a male. This can, however, disappear almost completely outside the breeding season. Occasional females have a blue tint but this is more pronounced in viridis than bilineata (the Bournemouth colony are the latter). In adult & sub-adult animals the clear white lines, often with black borders are also indicative of females - but, conversely, many females do not have this marking! Certainly all the pictures above appear to be females. Hope this helps Chris Chris Davis, Site Administrator Co-ordinator, Sand Lizard Captive Breeding Programme |
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Vicar Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 No. of posts: 1181 View other posts by Vicar |
Posted: 08 Jul 2006 Chris, I have no thunder to steal !, All I know about Green lizards I could write in crayon on the back of a postage stamp. Very grateful for any information, especially as I'm putting together a data sheet on them soon :P Cheers, Steve Steve Langham - Chairman
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herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369  View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2006
Hi Steve I have a report of green lizards in Essex - at Linford near Tilbury - these were there around 30 years ago - havent managed to find any sign of the population - tilbury docks have had all sorts of reptiles through it including monitor lizards who decided to have a wander up the high street! Jon Vice Chair of ARG UK - self employed consultant - visit ARG UK & Alresford Wildlife |
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armata Forum Specialist Joined: 05 Apr 2006 No. of posts: 928 View other posts by armata |
Posted: 09 Jul 2006 What happened to the adders at Tilbury Docks? All got eaten by leguaans (monitors) sorry! 'I get my kicks on Route 62' |
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herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369 View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2006
Hi Tony I think that adders are still there along the seawalls and other suitable areas. can not be sure as the consultants who have been undertaking surveys there have not yet sent in their records Jon Vice Chair of ARG UK - self employed consultant - visit ARG UK & Alresford Wildlife |
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Robert V Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 No. of posts: 717 View other posts by Robert V |
Posted: 09 Jul 2006 Jon, just thought youd like to know that a certain reptile dealer in enfield that got banned from keeping reptiles, supposedly released a large number of green's onto rainham marshes. Don't know how far that is from Tilbury, but, it may have been connected in some way. Rob RobV |
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Jimpklop Senior Member Joined: 23 May 2006 No. of posts: 200  View other posts by Jimpklop |
Posted: 08 Apr 2007 Some questions i would like answered please. 1. How many colonies? 2. How long has each been established? 3. Are they breeding here? 4. What threat do they pose to native herpetofauna? Please, Thank you James Im Craving Adder's(www.jimpklop.moonfruit.com) |
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herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369 View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 08 Apr 2007 1. How many colonies? One confirmed - possible further one in Essex Essex - reported around 30 years ago Bournmouth over the last few years Yes
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Vice Chair of ARG UK - self employed consultant - visit ARG UK & Alresford Wildlife |
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David Bird Forum Specialist Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 515 View other posts by David Bird |
Posted: 09 Apr 2007 I am not certain that I agree that the Green Lizard, Wall Lizard, Sand Lizard or Viviparous Lizard ever co-habit on the continent. I have seen all species in various parts of N.W.France and the Balkans and have never seen them living in the same habitat and are often restricted to very different habitat from the one they are found in the U.K. From my experience they would certainly not be found close like they would have to if they all survived on the Bournemouth cliffs. British Herpetological Society Librarian and member of B.H.S Conservation Committee. Self employed Herpetological Consultant and Field Worker. |
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Iowarth Admin Group Joined: 12 Apr 2004 No. of posts: 222 View other posts by Iowarth |
Posted: 09 Apr 2007 Hi David North coast of Brittany near Cap de Frejus, heathland leading to tumbled sandstone cliff/heath/dune - Green Lizard, Wall Lizard and Viviparous Lizard all living together. Also near St Malo - place name has slithered out of memory, again heath/scrub to rocky cliffs - same species. In both cases, greater concentrations of individual species in separate habitat but all three sharing considerable portions of it. No Sand Lizards but these are not found in Brittanny anyway. Historically, when I was younger (in this case about 45 years ago) Green Lizard, Vivips and Sand Lizards sharing an extent of now totally destroyed and largely built on dunes on the west coast - Normandy. Chris Chris Davis, Site Administrator Co-ordinator, Sand Lizard Captive Breeding Programme |
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