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Stu@rt
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Posted: 18 Jan 2006

Hi,

I am trying to source some temporary reptile fencing and was wondering if anyone knew of a reputable company that offers this product?

Thanks

Stuart

 

 


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herpetologic2
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Posted: 19 Jan 2006

 

It maybe worth looking at the ENDS directory www.ends.co.uk or the members directory on the IEEM www.ieem.net for people who work for companies that supply aswell as install these products.

I would also suggest looking for landscapers I think their organisation is BALI or something they are the guys that are installing this type of fencing.

The membrane is normally UV stabilised plastic or geo textile so again looking for these materials on the internet would be a good way to find the materials you need for reptile fencing

I know that there are some companies on the local authority buyers guide - www.buyersguide.co.uk under environmental services

 

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David Bird
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Posted: 19 Jan 2006
If you have lizards around, Geotextile is no good as they can and often run up and over it. If it is black this seems to attract them due to the warmth and they actually hold on and bask on it.


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herpetologic2
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006

 

Maybe a useful material if you want the animals to escape an area into suitable reptile habitat - one way fence - angling the stakes and pinning the geotextile along to the top producing an overhang to help stop lizards climbing back.

Of course in the upright fence there should be a 1.5 metre buffer strip or larger when all the vegetation is cut very close to the ground - creating brash piles within the remaining habitat would hopefully keep the lizards within the site and not along the fence.

If animals do bask on the fence then they may be captured possibly by a directional noose - a smaller version of the type used to poach pheasants out of trees...

 

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jopedder
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006

There is a franchise set up selling and instaling a rigid plastic fencing for herps (http://herpetosure.com/)

I think it doesn't work out too expensive, but looking at the design and a movie they sent me showing how it is installed, im not sure if it will be usable in rough terrain/brownfield sites etc.  Might be worth a look though.  If anyone has used this, or seen it in use i'd be interested to know as I intend to give them a trial run this year. 

 

 


herpetologic2
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006

 

Careful with the advert!

JC


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GemmaJF
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Posted: 21 Jan 2006

Blimey blatant advertising.. still as Herpetosure should soon have a advert on the site and I'm sure Jonathan doesn't work for them, I guess I can turn a blind eye

There is another, I know nothing about this one so can't recommend but if it is of help:

www.animalexclusion.co.uk 


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Posted: 21 Jan 2006
Oh and whilst promoting other peoples businesses.. if your in the SE contact Martin Hendy, ad on the left of this page. He does very good fencing.. this one I can vouch for
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jopedder
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Posted: 25 Jan 2006
Sorry, really not meant to be an ad for them, as I said I havn't used them myself yet (and am not on commission!)
djp_phillips
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Posted: 30 Jan 2006
Reptile fencing? what is this?
Reptiles & Amphibians of France:
www.herpfrance.com

European Field Herping Community:
www.euroherp.com
David Bird
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Posted: 11 Apr 2006
If anyone is close to Dorset and would like to see Herpetosure fencing in action, I have it on one of my rescue sites near Wareham. Anyone interested please contact me so we can arrange a mutually agreeable date.

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jopedder
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Posted: 19 Jul 2006

[QUOTE=GemmaJF]Oh and whilst promoting other peoples businesses.. if your in the SE contact Martin Hendy, ad on the left of this page. He does very good fencing.. this one I can vouch for [/QUOTE]

 

Gemma, Martins website doesn't include his telephone number, could post it or pm me? thanks


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Posted: 19 Jul 2006
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slippery42
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Posted: 12 Feb 2007
Is it really acceptable to allow advertising on a site such as this!!!!!!

Herpetosure do not need additional free plugs

herpetologic2
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Posted: 12 Feb 2007

 

Perhaps we should have a review of the different types of fencing available - all of them have flaws and faults which I believe can be overcome.....and of course people should really think about the money spent on fencing and its real benefit to reptiles, amphibians and mammals as it is not needed in every situation

People moan about the amount of cash thrown at fencing while the money would possibly be better spent on habitat enhancements and creation and further survey work......

Are there any plans for forming the RAUK committee and this may be one of the things we should have agreed rules about - i.e. we shouldnt allow free plugs for services though I think Herpetosure does pay for the advert on the left.........

How about forming a committee to take RAUK forward Gemma?

 

Jon

 

 

 


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David Bird
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Posted: 12 Feb 2007
I don't know what you think should be on this site. I for one try to help other people interested or involved in herpetofauna as much as possible so that the animals themselves gain. I know that a lot of people do not have the same amount of practical knowledge or experience as some of us on here and it is often very useful to discuss various methods and even be able to visit sites where the methods are actually in use. In my post I was offering anyone that wanted to come and see the Herpetosure rigid fencing the chance to see it in place.This was the first time it had been used on any of my sites and wish that I could have had a similar offer to see it in use. This was not an advert and I am certain that anyone who may have come along would have seen the deficiencies of the product as well as the benefits.
I just hope that you may be able to show members some new products or techniques that benefit us all.


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Posted: 12 Feb 2007

John, the reason a RAUK committee has not as yet been formed is precisely because of silly comments such as

"Is it really acceptable to allow advertising on a site such as this!!!!!!

Herpetosure do not need additional free plugs"

As the site owner I foot the considerable bill for server costs and decide what is acceptable. Perhaps you would like the advert for M&G Ecology, the primary supported of this facility to be removed also Graeme?

I know of very few websites these days that do not use some form of advertising to cover costs, herpetosure being one such advertiser on this site. Of course if users do not want to see advertising on the site they can all add to the donations, we have been there before and I had no choice but to start offering advertising space.

Personally I endorse the Herpetosure product. It only takes a trip around the motorways to see the tattered remains of traditional fencing that is supposed to be providing exclusion to see just how inadequate traditional timber and plastic fencing is as a solution.

It was extremely clear to me that David's original comment was purely in the interest of furthering others knowledge, not an attempt to promote any company in any case.

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herpetologic2
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Posted: 12 Feb 2007

Of course you have to ask the question does it really benefit the reptiles to have miles and miles of what ever fencing you choose - case in point I think was the reported cheshire case on the highways which was 15km of fencing and it was reported that 15 newts were captured! one newt per km come on was that really necessary

of course the reports probably left out the other wildlife which was captured - reptiles other amphibains etc

15,000metres of reptile exclusion fence I have heard it was traditional reptile fence - poly and wooden stakes man that must have been a tidy sum for that

Of course I try to only use fencing when it is necessary

 

Sorry Gemma about the committee idea

 

I do hope that we can get something together -

 

Jon

 


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Posted: 12 Feb 2007

 Jon, Poor decisions regarding fencing layout can hardly be blamed on the contractors, surely this is down the advising consultancy to apply a little common sense regarding exclusion fence requirements. I have seen very few schemes where such large layouts are really needed.

 


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