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Stu@rt Member Joined: 18 Jan 2006 No. of posts: 3 View other posts by Stu@rt |
Posted: 18 Jan 2006 Hi, I am trying to source some temporary reptile fencing and was wondering if anyone knew of a reputable company that offers this product? Thanks Stuart
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herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369 View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 19 Jan 2006
It maybe worth looking at the ENDS directory www.ends.co.uk or the members directory on the IEEM www.ieem.net for people who work for companies that supply aswell as install these products. I would also suggest looking for landscapers I think their organisation is BALI or something they are the guys that are installing this type of fencing. The membrane is normally UV stabilised plastic or geo textile so again looking for these materials on the internet would be a good way to find the materials you need for reptile fencing I know that there are some companies on the local authority buyers guide - www.buyersguide.co.uk under environmental services
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David Bird Forum Specialist Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 515 View other posts by David Bird |
Posted: 19 Jan 2006 If you have lizards around, Geotextile is no good as they can and often run up and over it. If it is black this seems to attract them due to the warmth and they actually hold on and bask on it. Dave British Herpetological Society Librarian and member of B.H.S Conservation Committee. Self employed Herpetological Consultant and Field Worker. |
herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369 View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 20 Jan 2006
Maybe a useful material if you want the animals to escape an area into suitable reptile habitat - one way fence - angling the stakes and pinning the geotextile along to the top producing an overhang to help stop lizards climbing back. Of course in the upright fence there should be a 1.5 metre buffer strip or larger when all the vegetation is cut very close to the ground - creating brash piles within the remaining habitat would hopefully keep the lizards within the site and not along the fence. If animals do bask on the fence then they may be captured possibly by a directional noose - a smaller version of the type used to poach pheasants out of trees...
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jopedder Senior Member Joined: 24 Jul 2003 No. of posts: 55 View other posts by jopedder |
Posted: 20 Jan 2006 There is a franchise set up selling and instaling a rigid plastic fencing for herps (http://herpetosure.com/) I think it doesn't work out too expensive, but looking at the design and a movie they sent me showing how it is installed, im not sure if it will be usable in rough terrain/brownfield sites etc. Might be worth a look though. If anyone has used this, or seen it in use i'd be interested to know as I intend to give them a trial run this year.
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herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369 View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 20 Jan 2006
Careful with the advert! JC Vice Chair of ARG UK - self employed consultant - visit ARG UK & Alresford Wildlife |
GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 21 Jan 2006 Blimey blatant advertising.. still as Herpetosure should soon have a advert on the site and I'm sure Jonathan doesn't work for them, I guess I can turn a blind eye There is another, I know nothing about this one so can't recommend but if it is of help: Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 21 Jan 2006 Oh and whilst promoting other peoples businesses.. if your in the SE contact Martin Hendy, ad on the left of this page. He does very good fencing.. this one I can vouch for Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
jopedder Senior Member Joined: 24 Jul 2003 No. of posts: 55 View other posts by jopedder |
Posted: 25 Jan 2006 Sorry, really not meant to be an ad for them, as I said I havn't used them myself yet (and am not on commission!) |
djp_phillips Senior Member Joined: 09 Jan 2006 No. of posts: 180 View other posts by djp_phillips |
Posted: 30 Jan 2006 Reptile fencing? what is this? Reptiles & Amphibians of France: www.herpfrance.com European Field Herping Community: www.euroherp.com |
David Bird Forum Specialist Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 515 View other posts by David Bird |
Posted: 11 Apr 2006 If anyone is close to Dorset and would like to see Herpetosure fencing in action, I have it on one of my rescue sites near Wareham. Anyone interested please contact me so we can arrange a mutually agreeable date. David Bird. British Herpetological Society Librarian and member of B.H.S Conservation Committee. Self employed Herpetological Consultant and Field Worker. |
jopedder Senior Member Joined: 24 Jul 2003 No. of posts: 55 View other posts by jopedder |
Posted: 19 Jul 2006 [QUOTE=GemmaJF]Oh and whilst promoting other peoples businesses.. if your in the SE contact Martin Hendy, ad on the left of this page. He does very good fencing.. this one I can vouch for [/QUOTE]
Gemma, Martins website doesn't include his telephone number, could post it or pm me? thanks |
GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 19 Jul 2006 PM sent Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
slippery42 Member Joined: 07 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 45 View other posts by slippery42 |
Posted: 12 Feb 2007 Is it really acceptable to allow advertising on a site such as this!!!!!! Herpetosure do not need additional free plugs |
herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369 View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 12 Feb 2007
Perhaps we should have a review of the different types of fencing available - all of them have flaws and faults which I believe can be overcome.....and of course people should really think about the money spent on fencing and its real benefit to reptiles, amphibians and mammals as it is not needed in every situation People moan about the amount of cash thrown at fencing while the money would possibly be better spent on habitat enhancements and creation and further survey work...... Are there any plans for forming the RAUK committee and this may be one of the things we should have agreed rules about - i.e. we shouldnt allow free plugs for services though I think Herpetosure does pay for the advert on the left......... How about forming a committee to take RAUK forward Gemma?
Jon
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David Bird Forum Specialist Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 515 View other posts by David Bird |
Posted: 12 Feb 2007 I don't know what you think should be on this site. I for one try to help other people interested or involved in herpetofauna as much as possible so that the animals themselves gain. I know that a lot of people do not have the same amount of practical knowledge or experience as some of us on here and it is often very useful to discuss various methods and even be able to visit sites where the methods are actually in use. In my post I was offering anyone that wanted to come and see the Herpetosure rigid fencing the chance to see it in place.This was the first time it had been used on any of my sites and wish that I could have had a similar offer to see it in use. This was not an advert and I am certain that anyone who may have come along would have seen the deficiencies of the product as well as the benefits. I just hope that you may be able to show members some new products or techniques that benefit us all. David British Herpetological Society Librarian and member of B.H.S Conservation Committee. Self employed Herpetological Consultant and Field Worker. |
GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 12 Feb 2007 John, the reason a RAUK committee has not as yet been formed is precisely because of silly comments such as "Is it really acceptable to allow advertising on a site such as this!!!!!! As the site owner I foot the considerable bill for server costs and decide what is acceptable. Perhaps you would like the advert for M&G Ecology, the primary supported of this facility to be removed also Graeme? I know of very few websites these days that do not use some form of advertising to cover costs, herpetosure being one such advertiser on this site. Of course if users do not want to see advertising on the site they can all add to the donations, we have been there before and I had no choice but to start offering advertising space. Personally I endorse the Herpetosure product. It only takes a trip around the motorways to see the tattered remains of traditional fencing that is supposed to be providing exclusion to see just how inadequate traditional timber and plastic fencing is as a solution. It was extremely clear to me that David's original comment was purely in the interest of furthering others knowledge, not an attempt to promote any company in any case. Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369 View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 12 Feb 2007 Of course you have to ask the question does it really benefit the reptiles to have miles and miles of what ever fencing you choose - case in point I think was the reported cheshire case on the highways which was 15km of fencing and it was reported that 15 newts were captured! one newt per km come on was that really necessary of course the reports probably left out the other wildlife which was captured - reptiles other amphibains etc 15,000metres of reptile exclusion fence I have heard it was traditional reptile fence - poly and wooden stakes man that must have been a tidy sum for that Of course I try to only use fencing when it is necessary
Sorry Gemma about the committee idea
I do hope that we can get something together -
Jon
Vice Chair of ARG UK - self employed consultant - visit ARG UK & Alresford Wildlife |
GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 12 Feb 2007 Jon, Poor decisions regarding fencing layout can hardly be blamed on the contractors, surely this is down the advising consultancy to apply a little common sense regarding exclusion fence requirements. I have seen very few schemes where such large layouts are really needed.
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