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Alan Hyde
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Joined: 17 Apr 2003
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Posted: 03 May 2003

Heeello,

While out walking today I was told that sand lizards could be found near where I was . I do not know if this is true untill I get a chance to take a look for myself, I always take chit chat like this with a pinch of salt untill proven.

Anyhow, this got me thinking . Does anyone here know how/where I can apply for a permit to photograph smooth snakes and sand lizards? I will also be making my usual trip to Dorset in June and would love to get some snaps of Smooth snakes should the oppertunity arise.

 

Thanks,

Alan


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Tony Phelps
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Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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Posted: 03 May 2003

Alan,

You do not need a licence to photograph SS or SL in situ, although you should be aware of the legal 'disturbance' which is I suppose a grey area.

Sand lizards are not usually a problem with a decent tele macro lens, but it is just chance to find a SS out in the open, they do this later in the year and very early in the morning.

 

Tony


Alan Hyde
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Posted: 03 May 2003

Thanks Tony.

Are Smooth snakes like berus in that , if you find one , you normaly find more around that same area ?

Cheers,

Alan


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-LAF
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Posted: 18 May 2003
Hi Tony, I have a bit of a question for you. I am currently on an MSc course in Biological Photography and Imaging at the university of Nottingham. For my masters project I am hoping to produce a photographic field guide to the UK Reptiles. Within this I need to get photographs of many colour variations of species as well as detailed close up shots of scalation. As a result I have the same problem as Alan. I have been in touch with the HCT and should be able to get my sand lizard shots (all 3 races) in captivity, however I know of no captive UK smooth snakes. As a result I will need to get licensing. I have the relevent english nature application forms but, with the smooth snake being listed as a european protected species, it seems I cannot get licensing specifically for photographic purposes. Whether I could get licencing for educational purposes I am not sure. Do you have any advice on how I could go about getting the smooth snake shots that I need? As I mentioned, I would ideally need a few colour variations and some close up scalation shots and so in situ shots, especially close ups, are probably ruled out. Any advice you may have would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Lee.
Lee Fairclough
Tony Phelps
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Posted: 18 May 2003

Hi Lee,

Strangely enough I was a tutor at a Biological Imaging Course at Derby a few years back.

All I can suggest is that as I am recording and photographing SS almost daily you could attach yourself to me for a day or so. You can work under my licence and just to make it official a letter orsomething from your tutor, and I would leave it to your good sense with regard to site confidentiality.

Cheers

 

Tony


Caleb
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Joined: 17 Feb 2003
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Posted: 19 May 2003
Lee- re captive smooth snakes, does the Holidays Hill reptiliary in the New Forest not have them? I thought they had all the native reptiles.
-LAF
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Posted: 19 May 2003

Hi Tony, thank you for the offer! If that's possible it would be great. I will be shooting over June and July. Any time during these months would be fantasic - and I can be very flexible as to specific dates. I've got a reference from my course supervisor (Brian Case - heard of him?) underway. Site confidentiality is a given.

Let me know if this would be convenient.

Many thanks, Lee.


Lee Fairclough
Tony Phelps
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Posted: 19 May 2003

Hi Lee,

Yes we can sort something when the time comes.

Is Prof Russell Beck still at Nottingham, if so give him my best of you see him.

 

Cheers.

 

Tony Phelps


-LAF
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Posted: 20 May 2003
Yeah, Russell's still here, will give your regards. Cheers Tony, Lee.
Lee Fairclough

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