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When is a Lacerta a Zootoca?:

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Lisa
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Joined: 19 Apr 2004
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004

Hi,

So, whats the crac with the common lizard and its metamorphosing name? I've noticed Zootoca vivipara being used more and more in journals but am no clearer as to when and why the change occurred (and if the term is universal)..please enlighten me

Thanks Lisa


GemmaJF
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Posted: 01 May 2004

Why, seems to be evidence that the previously named L.v is different enough from other Lacerta to warrant the change, when, as more and more people accept the evidence they will take on Zootoca - though last I heard the evidence had been challanged.

Tony mentioned this in another thread, you can use the search facility and type in 'Zootoca', choose search within the message bodies and the relavent thread should come up.

I'll still be putting L.v on recording cards for years to come I suspect :0)


Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant
Lisa
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Posted: 01 May 2004

Hi Gemma,

Thanks for that, I found Tony's previous messages so its all as clear as mud now!! :)

I expect I shall also be using L.v for some time (hopefully by that time we will have come full circle again eh?). Whatever its latest latin name the viviparous (not the derogatory common) lizard is still wonderful.

 

cheers

Lisa


j gaughan
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Posted: 05 May 2004
Nice one Lisa

John
Mick
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Posted: 15 Jun 2005
No, i don't buy the need at all to mess with the name of such a widely distributed & clearly recognised lizard, whatever the ins'n'outs. I wouldn't exactly say, if it isn't broke, then don't fix it!, but i just don't see the major need for this palava. Zootoca,...Yuk! With respect, personally, for the foreseeable future i'll be sticking with Viviparous, or rather my often shortened & fond term..Vivip'! That just sounds more the business for a reptile. I mean,..a Zoey! Naaaa, i don't wanna remember her! And any righteous, ignorant snobbery with not acknowledging anything merely because the name Viviparous is used, well...i won't lose any sleep over any smart Alec!, or Alectoca! Whether it's a Vivip', or a Zoey (Urrrrgh!) we'll pretty much all know the familiar fella in question. I won't be ignoring anything on Zootapioca, but to me, they're Vivip's!     
-LAF
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Posted: 15 Jun 2005
So if it goes to Zoey, will you all be shouting "Lacie Come Home!"?

Yeah I know, I'm getting my coat.

Lee.
Lee Fairclough
Mick
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Posted: 15 Jun 2005
Like it!

- When is a Lacerta a Zootoca?

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