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will j Member Joined: 06 Aug 2005 No. of posts: 18  View other posts by will j |
Posted: 06 Aug 2005 can anyone give me some information on the population/s of mesotriton alpestris in Shropshire, all i know is that they are found in the Market Drayton area. thanks Will Birder from Shropshire, adrift in Cornwall! |
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will j Member Joined: 06 Aug 2005 No. of posts: 18 View other posts by will j |
Posted: 14 Aug 2005 any help at all??? Birder from Shropshire, adrift in Cornwall! |
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Vicar Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 No. of posts: 1181 View other posts by Vicar |
Posted: 14 Aug 2005 Sorry Will, not my species, nor part of the country  Steve Langham - Chairman 
Surrey Amphibian & Reptile Group (SARG). |
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GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090  View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 14 Aug 2005 Beebee and Griffith briefly mention a Shropshire population in Reptiles & Amphibians, they mention the population being restricted to a handful of small ponds in private gardens. It is possible they have colonised further in the area though since the book was written. Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
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will j Member Joined: 06 Aug 2005 No. of posts: 18 View other posts by will j |
Posted: 18 Aug 2005 i'm looking for this paper to find out more info, can't track down the paper though, can ayone help with that? Bell, B. D. and Bell, A. P. (1995) Distribution of the introduced alpine newt Triturus alpestris and of native Triturus species in north Shropshire, England, Australian Journal of Ecology 20 367-375 Birder from Shropshire, adrift in Cornwall! |
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Caleb Forum Coordinator Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 448 View other posts by Caleb |
Posted: 18 Aug 2005 Have you tried emailing either of the authors to ask for a reprint? B. D. Bell's web page is at: VUW | SBS Staff |
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will j Member Joined: 06 Aug 2005 No. of posts: 18 View other posts by will j |
Posted: 21 Aug 2005 ahh cheers, that's just what i've been looking for! Birder from Shropshire, adrift in Cornwall! |
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will j Member Joined: 06 Aug 2005 No. of posts: 18 View other posts by will j |
Posted: 14 Nov 2005 well, what i have found out is that the species has not spread more than 70 meters in almost 40 years!!!!!!!! and that the species does no damage to the local enviroment in this location, but i still haven't tracked down that paper  , i'll ask the authors again....Birder from Shropshire, adrift in Cornwall! |
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calumma Senior Member Joined: 27 Jun 2003 No. of posts: 351 View other posts by calumma |
Posted: 15 Nov 2005 Interesting that they have not colonised ponds further than 70 m. In Kent, they seem to be far more capable of dispersing. Could it just be that survey effort has not been sufficient to detect them elsewhere in the area? Lee Lee Brady Kent Herpetofauna Recorder | Independent Ecological Consultant |
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will j Member Joined: 06 Aug 2005 No. of posts: 18 View other posts by will j |
Posted: 22 Nov 2005 i've no idea. it could be that they only spread 70m because there was no sutible habitat outside that range.... but i don't know Birder from Shropshire, adrift in Cornwall! |
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