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alpine newts in shropshire:

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will j
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Posted: 06 Aug 2005

can anyone give me some information on the population/s of mesotriton alpestris in Shropshire, all i know is that they are found in the Market Drayton area.

thanks

Will


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will j
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Posted: 14 Aug 2005
any help at all???
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Vicar
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Posted: 14 Aug 2005
Sorry Will, not my species, nor part of the country
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GemmaJF
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Posted: 14 Aug 2005

Beebee and Griffith briefly mention a Shropshire population in Reptiles & Amphibians, they mention the population being restricted to a handful of small ponds in private gardens. It is possible they have colonised further in the area though since the book was written.


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will j
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Posted: 18 Aug 2005

i'm looking for this paper to find out more info, can't track down the paper though, can ayone help with that?

Bell, B. D. and Bell, A. P. (1995) Distribution of the introduced alpine newt Triturus alpestris and of native Triturus species in north Shropshire, England, Australian Journal of Ecology 20 367-375


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Caleb
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Posted: 18 Aug 2005
Have you tried emailing either of the authors to ask for a reprint?

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will j
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Posted: 21 Aug 2005
ahh cheers, that's just what i've been looking for!
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will j
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Posted: 14 Nov 2005
well, what i have found out is that the species has not spread more than 70 meters in almost 40 years!!!!!!!! and that the species does no damage to the local enviroment in this location, but i still haven't tracked down that paper, i'll ask the authors again....
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calumma
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Posted: 15 Nov 2005
Interesting that they have not colonised ponds further than 70 m. In Kent,
they seem to be far more capable of dispersing. Could it just be that survey
effort has not been sufficient to detect them elsewhere in the area?

Lee


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will j
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Posted: 22 Nov 2005
i've no idea. it could be that they only spread 70m because there was no sutible habitat outside that range.... but i don't know
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