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will
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Posted: 20 Aug 2008
Anyone seen any babies yet ?  The female in the pic with the male below from a London site seemed very saggy with loose folds of skin so I assume post-partum.

Also saw a big male (70cm) coiled up with a grassy plus adder and admiral basking on a log together, and here's a close-up of one of the still gravid females on the site, all making the most of a little sunshine at last !



tim hamlett
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Posted: 20 Aug 2008

fantastic shots will. well done

tim


dave fixx
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008
well done Will,grassies are hard enough to catch in situ without adding another snake ! No baby adders yet but have seen 3 grassies,out today so who knows.
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AGILIS
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008
Very good pics Will , yes no one seems  to report frequent sightings of young adders under 10" maybe lots dont survive the predators?keith
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will
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008
Thanks folks; sorry the pics are horizontal, I did try to get them vertical but failed miserably
armata
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008
The next two weeks will be peak birth, although some will have already given birth. Neos will be 120-180mm, some even 200mm.
Has anyone records of individual female breeding cycles, and size of litters?
That male was a nice size Will; get males that size on the Mendips quite regular, but more rarely in Dorset.
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will
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008
Thanks for the info Tony; always surprises me how much thicker a snake only a few cm longer than the usual appears, too
will
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Posted: 13 Sep 2008
Here's one of three neo's from the London site mentioned above; each neo at least 200m from the others, so three separate litters at least - good news for a very threatened animal in the Capital !



armata
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Posted: 15 Sep 2008
Good stuff Will. See if you can find any neos with 'bulges' as related to the neo diet thread.

Glad this London site ius thriving (if its the one I'm thinkin about.)
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will
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Posted: 15 Sep 2008
Hi Tony; I'll keep an eye out for the bulges.  The site is in the eastern half of Greater London - I've been studying it, off and on for a decade or so I guess.  It's currently subject to a reasonable sized grant specially for reptile conservation, which is a bit of a rarity !
Stanislaw
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Posted: 15 Sep 2008
Here in Poland I saw week ago more than 20 neos and 2 adult females during birth (unfortunatelly no photos)
I apologize for my english :-)
Suzi
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008
Stanislaw, don't apologise, your English is fine and certainly my Polish would not measure up to your English!
Suz
mikebrown
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Posted: 21 Sep 2008

Saw a neo adder in west Wales yesterday with a bulge and appeared to be sloughing. Will be able to post a picture in a week or so.

Mike


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will
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Posted: 29 Aug 2009
Anyone seen babies yet ?  Given the early sightings of baby lizards, grass snakes etc I was expecting neo adders early too, but this was my first post partum female of the year in London today, though I couldn't find her babies



Jonathan
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Posted: 08 Sep 2009
Two gravid females by me still to give birth.  All the other females that are out basking that I've seen in the last two weeks, bar one (out of seven) have recently eaten large rodents and are reluctant to move except when there are cows near.  Only seen two neos, but these are away from the females and closer to the only two males I've seen. 
"England Expects"
will
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Posted: 23 Oct 2009
Saw 2 male adders basking together at a London site today - exactly one year ago had a female at the same site.  Guess that's it for the year.
Jonathan
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Posted: 24 Oct 2009
Yeah, things are quiet by me now.  Looks like that's it.  It's always a sad time of year for me
"England Expects"

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