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will Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 330 View other posts by will	Posted: 20 Aug 2008 Anyone seen any babies yet ? The female in the pic with the male below from a London site seemed very saggy with loose folds of skin so I assume post-partum. Also saw a big male (70cm) coiled up with a grassy plus adder and admiral basking on a log together, and here's a close-up of one of the still gravid females on the site, all making the most of a little sunshine at last !

tim hamlett Senior Member Joined: 17 Dec 2006 No. of posts: 572 View other posts by tim hamlett	Posted: 20 Aug 2008 fantastic shots will. well done tim

dave fixx Senior Member Joined: 13 Mar 2007 No. of posts: 319 View other posts by dave fixx	Posted: 21 Aug 2008 well done Will,grassies are hard enough to catch in situ without adding another snake ! No baby adders yet but have seen 3 grassies,out today so who knows. Dave Williams davewilliamsphotography.co.uk

AGILIS Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 694 View other posts by AGILIS	Posted: 21 Aug 2008 Very good pics Will , yes no one seems to report frequent sightings of young adders under 10" maybe lots dont survive the predators?keith LOCAL ICYNICAL CELTIC ECO WARRIOR AND FAILED DRUID

will Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 330 View other posts by will	Posted: 21 Aug 2008 Thanks folks; sorry the pics are horizontal, I did try to get them vertical but failed miserably

armata Forum Specialist Joined: 05 Apr 2006 No. of posts: 928 View other posts by armata	Posted: 21 Aug 2008 The next two weeks will be peak birth, although some will have already given birth. Neos will be 120-180mm, some even 200mm. Has anyone records of individual female breeding cycles, and size of litters? That male was a nice size Will; get males that size on the Mendips quite regular, but more rarely in Dorset. 'I get my kicks on Route 62'

will Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 330 View other posts by will	Posted: 21 Aug 2008 Thanks for the info Tony; always surprises me how much thicker a snake only a few cm longer than the usual appears, too

will Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 330 View other posts by will	Posted: 13 Sep 2008 Here's one of three neo's from the London site mentioned above; each neo at least 200m from the others, so three separate litters at least - good news for a very threatened animal in the Capital !

armata Forum Specialist Joined: 05 Apr 2006 No. of posts: 928 View other posts by armata	Posted: 15 Sep 2008 Good stuff Will. See if you can find any neos with 'bulges' as related to the neo diet thread. Glad this London site ius thriving (if its the one I'm thinkin about.) 'I get my kicks on Route 62'

will Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 330 View other posts by will	Posted: 15 Sep 2008 Hi Tony; I'll keep an eye out for the bulges. The site is in the eastern half of Greater London - I've been studying it, off and on for a decade or so I guess. It's currently subject to a reasonable sized grant specially for reptile conservation, which is a bit of a rarity !

Stanislaw Member Joined: 08 Mar 2008 No. of posts: 32 View other posts by Stanislaw	Posted: 15 Sep 2008 Here in Poland I saw week ago more than 20 neos and 2 adult females during birth (unfortunatelly no photos) I apologize for my english :-)

Suzi Senior Member Joined: 06 Apr 2005 No. of posts: 860 View other posts by Suzi	Posted: 16 Sep 2008 Stanislaw, don't apologise, your English is fine and certainly my Polish would not measure up to your English! Suz

mikebrown Senior Member Joined: 30 Jun 2005 No. of posts: 95 View other posts by mikebrown	Posted: 21 Sep 2008 Saw a neo adder in west Wales yesterday with a bulge and appeared to be sloughing. Will be able to post a picture in a week or so. Mike Mike Brown Merseyside ARG

will Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 330 View other posts by will	Posted: 29 Aug 2009 Anyone seen babies yet ? Given the early sightings of baby lizards, grass snakes etc I was expecting neo adders early too, but this was my first post partum female of the year in London today, though I couldn't find her babies

Jonathan Senior Member Joined: 08 Sep 2009 No. of posts: 68 View other posts by Jonathan	Posted: 08 Sep 2009 Two gravid females by me still to give birth. All the other females that are out basking that I've seen in the last two weeks, bar one (out of seven) have recently eaten large rodents and are reluctant to move except when there are cows near. Only seen two neos, but these are away from the females and closer to the only two males I've seen. "England Expects"

will Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 No. of posts: 330 View other posts by will	Posted: 23 Oct 2009 Saw 2 male adders basking together at a London site today - exactly one year ago had a female at the same site. Guess that's it for the year.

Jonathan Senior Member Joined: 08 Sep 2009 No. of posts: 68 View other posts by Jonathan	Posted: 24 Oct 2009 Yeah, things are quiet by me now. Looks like that's it. It's always a sad time of year for me "England Expects"

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