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peterh
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Posted: 10 Feb 2008
Hi, can anyone shed any light on why adders have vertical pupils ( cat like) and grass and smoothies have more "human-like" pupils, just wondered if any advantages were had by either form. Also wen out herp spotting i find myself  choosing cammo or drab greens or browns. This does help to break up the out line but are snakes and lizards colourblind?

beauty hides in all things, its just different eyes see it in different ways.
tim hamlett
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Posted: 10 Feb 2008

don't know about the shape of the pupil but i think most reptiles have excellent colour vision - better than ours i think.

cheers

tim


Caleb
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Posted: 11 Feb 2008
This paper suggests that slit pupils are associated with lenses which have concentric zones with different focal lengths.

Apparently these concentric zones help prevent colour blurring at low light levels, and a slit pupil can keep all these zones active at higher light levels. A round pupil would obscure the outer focus zones as it narrowed down at high light levels.

So a slit pupil would be expected in an animal that needs to be able to see in low and high light levels.

Not sure how this applies to adders & grass snakes, though... all vipers have slit pupils, don't they? Maybe vipers developed from an ancestor that needed to see at night (or underground), as well as in the day...
Vicar
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Posted: 11 Feb 2008
I don't know the answer to this one...but some thoughts about the physics involved...

Slit pupils optimise the capture of images from multi-focal lenses. These multi-focal lenses have various focal points attuned to specific wavelengths of light (from what I've read).

One of these 'colours' could be in the near infra-red, which would help with night vision. A lot of vipers are nocturnal ambush snakes, so the adder could be a diurnal evolution from this family.

We know that on warm nights the adder does hunt at night, so maybe the diurnal evolution allowed it to occupy cooler climes? (as we know the adder has the coolest range of any snake).

One last thought...near infra-red vision could be used in conjunction with heat-sensing pits, the pits being used to cue the eyesight for a more accurate strike. I know some constrictors have vertically slit pupils, but can't remember if those are the ones with pits too.

None of this is gospel, just speculation. If grass snakes hunt at night (?) then that blows this theory out of the water, as in my experience, the grass snake has better diurnal vision than the adder.

Steve Langham - Chairman    
Surrey Amphibian & Reptile Group (SARG).
peterh
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Posted: 11 Feb 2008
Hmmm thanks for the replies the idea of grass snakes hunting at night would surely help as frogs are in my local pond anyway more active at night thus creating more vibrations ect for natrix to home in on, having said that a more inactive semi hidden frog during the day could be the easy-er target  thanks . pete.

beauty hides in all things, its just different eyes see it in different ways.

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